If people don’t like it tell them to shut up and vice versa on their own content. New ideas aren’t what breaks a community, it’s the inability to be flexible at all and putting your ideas on everyone else. Like I think bread fluffies are the dumbest thing ever but I don’t go on the pages for it and call them dipshits.
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Gonna be frank on this as a damn furry; This is really blowing things way out of the water in terms of a fandom. Like with the Pokemon fandom, there’s going to folks who hate anything new, while others will try to keep an open mind.
Like the old saying goes; you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
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Subspecies and fluffy being an actual major Pests and harm for the ecosystem
Like I Know fluffy aren’t real and the idea of a heavily genetically engineered small mammal made to look like a living toy that automatically knows how to talk straight from birth enters the realm of fiction.
But to then say this thing that is usually depicted in most headcanon as frail and also stupid with child-like intellect (and some programmed conditioning) is a major pest that floods cities and invades and harms wildlife areas is just ridiculous. I’m no ecology professor or a wildlife scientist, but it doesn’t take a degree to see that these little guys would be on F-tier on a ZooTier video. There is no way they surpass the Rat as the king of pests in a city, or survive a week in the wild and become a threat to the ecosystem. They are going to be Like Love Bird, I live in Arizona, and in metro Phoenix there are feral Lovebird parrots that live in small parts of the city, they are incapable of surviving wild and are heavily dependent on Human structure to survive the harsh heat and cold and along with bird feeders, and fountains for food. If fluffy were real they would fill this niche of only existing in cities and being a really small population with their number really depending on human generosity as they aren’t going be as effective as feral cats or dogs who have great agility, and strength, and sense to search for food, and not that potent as rats who small size and strong teeth, and few traits give them great survivability and resilent to make home in any small spaces and cracks
Bowl fluffies are one of the sub-species that tick me off. Micro, Sea Fluffies, and some others are usually explained as other products from Hasbio, and stuff like Bread Fluffy are coming from a weird box story. Bowl fluffy being something from the wild from evolution, I’m sorry but that load of BS. Yeah Rapid evolution is a thing but is a small thing like the beak size of a bird, or a slight body size change and small adaption within a decade. Something like complete body structure and water resilient fur and buoyancy is something too drastic of a change, not to mention the whole reason behind it, is to avoid predators by going to the water is kinda stupid when the story tells it to take a while for them to set up and they just FLOAT away, them still hating water and the fact most predators aren’t afraid of getting wet and can perfectly swim (some with some pretty scary swim speed), like we have Wolfs shown to even continue a chase on a deer in the water, a bowl fluffy is an easy meal that clearly not only goes extinct, but shouldn’t exist in the first place.
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Counterargument: I like Bowl Fluffies because they are less practical and more vulnerable while having no major advantages, and I think it’s funny to force something so easily drownable to float as a basic function of life.
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Well, from a medical standpoint, they can be; the black death came about a large amount shit and piss being every where and not being cleaned up. And if a large amount of them spray everywhere and on things, it can easily make them a danger to the wild life and humans.
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Was reading some old greentexts to try get inspiration for new writing and one thing I noticed that I missed. When smarties were just the heads of a herd instead of sex and power mad shit rockets. Smarties are a pretty underrated topic. I’d love to see some stories where the smarty is good and unselfish. I like it when there’s degrees of good and evil to smarties instead of just being plain evil.
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I’m fine with them, but their origin being from evolution is just ridiculous, i feel like just saying they are other product Hasbio made is better explanation which would also explain their vulnerability and useless function of their bowl body
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While true i find it unlikely as even back in 19th Century, 500 tones of horse manure was collected off the streets of New York every day, from the 60 thousand Horse that use live in city back when Horse and donkeys where still main use of transportation
I mean let’s be real here, about 95% of the “”“science”“” that people talk about here, even when they’re being serious and talking about stuff they think is real, is like middle school level misunderstanding of the subject. Bowl Fluffies kind of feel like that. Anyway I prefer a version where all the subspecies are just failed attempts to make new lines for marketing purposes. It’s part of the charm, in my opinion. That’s just me though.
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Horse manure was a) pretty solid for the most part and b) not full of some of the noxious stuff often implied to be in fluffy shit. Could be enough to make the difference.
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I blame being brought up in a literalist, the Bible is infallible church growing up. It’s a wonder I’m not a young earth creationist.
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More talking in general, I have no fucking idea what’s in a fluffy stool, let alone if folks use the head canon of much of what they eat is somewhat still there where it could rot. I rather assume it’d be a breeding for illnesses for such and write it off.
There’s a lot of contradictory worldbuilding in fluffies! I don’t write them as invasive vermin either, it just doesn’t make sense for me. Some say it’d happen because they breed so much and fast and eat everything, but those same people depict fluffies as consistently losing all their foals so … Yeah.
I think bowl fluffies are another example of this contradiction. I had no idea they were meant to evolve naturally to get away, that really does make no sense. Feels more likely to be some backyard mad scientist or a Hasbio experiment to spice up the brand, or just a fluffy copulating with a turtle and the offspring inheriting no turtle traits except for skeleton shape. Thankfully, due to the loose canon, everything about it can be bent whatever way you like - all origins and behaviors are equally valid. I’m personally going with the turtle idea because I think it’s funny.
Fluffy stool is, like all other things, contradictory at best. I think at least a few stories have written it as being mildly corrosive, others write it as being like a much chunkier skunk spray. Some say it varies depending on the fluffy’s diet which is probably the best explanation. It’s annoying how common it is for the fluffies to be constantly shitting like leaky faucets, though, that I will say.
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Yeah, up with farts. More farts in fluffy stories.
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It depends on the author really. I remember early hive lore that it was “Clean” from disease, just fairly stinky due to the way Hasbio designed the fluffy having a smaller bowel and intestinal tract which also meant a fluffy has to go to the toilet a little more often. But it was also fertilizer on steroids. Fluffies were also quite obsessively clean, knew to cover up their poop in the litterbox and got distressed if they had no litterbox. I’m not sure what lead to the change where even a mild shock caused fluffies to empty their bowels other than “Shit = Funny”. I do like the early canon on it in that fluffies are obsessively clean, just their poop stinks which is what I stuck to when writing.
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While I don’t mind rampant abuse for abuse sake, the whole shitrat/hellgremlin that exist to be tortured trope is boring. I think the fact that they have redeeming qualities makes their suffering more emotional and less 2 dimensional.
Mary sue brown fluffies that can do no wrong and can’t suffer are also a trope I hate. (Ignore that the next 3 story arcs I post will all be about poopies)
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This thread inspired me to make a story about a poopy who got a good life and turned into a total piece of garbage as a result.
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I like them because they’re prime for a third act twist where surprise: Everything is somehow worse than when they started off.
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This exact type of special treatment has only baffled me over time because they’re still fluffies at the end of the day. Treating any other fluffy like people do with most alicorns would absolutely promote smarty behavior or spoil them rotten, so I’m shocked by the lack of smarty alicorns. Especially in cases where it’s some conveniently uber expensive MLP themed jackpot alicorn, because they get the exact pampering we hate to see in bitch mares or stories of permissive owners raising little hellions. Them being smarter by default seems to me like that should be the end of their differences psychologically, with a lot more instances of rare alicorns being ruined by pampering because breeders or whoever are dumb and get too excited over the payday they think they have coming. I made my alicorns extremely high maintenance for this very reason lol.
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I think the reason we never really got smarty alicorns was that the hive and headcanon of the old guard on alicorns was that Alicorns are way more emotionally intelligent than other fluffies than just “intelligent for a fluffy”. They understand their situation in life a bit more. An Alicorn is naturally very lonely because other fluffies see them as a monster so they never get hugs, love and friendship growing up. Most of the time they just get raised either by a human with a bottle of foal formula or a muzzled milkbagged mare unless they are extremely lucky enough to have alicorn parents. So they are a bit more thankful and polite to a human owner for giving it attention and love because they are guaranteed to have a not great upbringing by fluffy standards.
Also, Alicorn fluffies have less reason to go smarty in the first place because the alicorn sees the attention its getting as the only attention it will ever get, otherwise they will be alone and unloved which is an alicorn’s greatest fear. so they don’t push their luck with going smarty just because it gets some better treatment than a regular fluffy. A lot of real good writers like Mayclore and Giant_Neckbeard did alicorns really well in that while smarter than a fluffy, alicorns had their own issues like being a bit neurotic, needing more human reassurance and the more emotional intelligence making them take things like losing a foal really badly. That made them feel a lot more believable in why they wouldn’t go smarty even though the humans were treating them better than other fluffies. They had their own set of issues that would prevent them from going smarty.
I think that’s where newer writers trip up a bit in making alicorns into mary sue god fluffies when the whole alicorn paradox established before is that alicorns are rare and valuable to humans but as fluffies they have their own specific flaws and weaknesses inherent to being an alicorn.
I’d love to see a smarty alicorn story though. That seems like really untapped potential.