How political is art?

Any of those big pharma assholes and u got it champ

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I mean not for nothing but it’s not like anybody is canceling anything. Not, like, ACTUALLY. Certainly not old shit. Folks may not be thinking of it the same way, but nobody is George Lucasing Hamlet.

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First thing i thought of too :heart:

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Almost as though the discussions that they lead to can be an end in and of itself.

Just not necessarily all of them. For me, anyway.

CU​:rocket::cowboy_hat_face:

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Time lost all meaning over the last couple years as I’ve returned to a feral state but the sun is threatening me with her loathsome presence, yeah.

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Let me tell you we Germans are weari good at art canceling and it happens stuff from the 1800 to early 1900 that was deamd to dangerous or to close to the Nazi ideology was taken down in the last ten years and replaced with newer art. Basically a wite washing of our old warrior culture is happening. From old Kings to Generals nothing is safe

That’s the thing though, author’s intent can only go so far. We’ve all been shaped by the world we live in and that can unconsciously slip through and color how others see the work. You may not be actively trying to but it can happen especially the more complex the story or art is. For example lets look at “Fluffies as Avatar” https://fluffy-community.com/t/fluffy-as-avatar-by-fwaffynuteww/28157. The author stated themselves this is a true story that happened to them but with the addition of fluffies, but to me it looked like a piece of fascistic propaganda. That wasn’t the author’s intent and Fwaffynuteww probably isn’t a fascist but to someone with my experiences thats what it looks like. Ones intent can only go so far.

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That is why you are always wrong

kazuma_kiryu_slams_a_desk_and_leaves

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I don’t get it sorry

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Me angry at the current world order. I leave

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Yeah but at least I can understand we’re my people are coming fron… Never again isn’t just a empty frase we say

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Yeah, that’s a lot easier to do in a pre-digital age. Can’t burn e-books.

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That’s the idea behind the two viewpoints
The first is Authorial Intent, the creator telling you what they meant/intended by the piece
The second is your interpretation. Which is fine until someone tries to claim it as fact(not saying you are, you clearly make the point otherwise)
With Death of the author, people can turn their own views and opinions on the artistic medium and say that it is definitive, which is basically saying that their take on the medium(which is painted by their vastly different life experiences as opposed to the creator) and say that is matters more than the creator.

No one can stop the endless interpretations of art, and there isn’t anything wrong with that at all. But when we say “you meant this! I know it because it’s what I saw” Then that, to me at least, it tantamount to Thought Policing, which I find very distasteful.(Again, this isn’t aimed at you, you seem rather chill :heart:)

Also just as a personal nitpick I’m not one for celebrating history. Learning it is more useful, and a lot less dangerous.

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But yeah. The sheer volume of what various global communities lost when the Weimar Republic inevitably collapsed was a shitstorm.

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Cellebrating history can lead down a dangerous path that’s what I meant to learn from previous mistakes but if you take down all that was there is also no one that’s gonna ask the impotent questions

Okay fuck this is gonna bother me if I don’t correct it.

You can burn e-books, it’s just not really a viable strategy since they’re digital files and therefore endlessly replicable.

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Never had a statue teach me anything a book couldn’t.

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And I don’t mean Art lost to the Nazis but I mean art that got taken down in the last 10 years or so