That fluffy was definitely inspired by Slate
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We’re all roleplaying, that’s kind of the point.
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I don’t like litterpals because the concept would only work with hellgremlins, but the idea of fluffies being so conditioned to a life in feces that they can’t be free from it even after being rescued brings a smile to my face. 
Speaking of litterpals, here’s an idea on how to fix their concept and fit them in the regular fluffyverse: Have their production involve demeaning, degradation and putting them down until they themselves come to believe that they exist only to eat poop. Mind-breaking on an industrial scale, in order to produce broken fluffies that genuinely convince regular fluffies that they want to be shat on and it’s the kindest thing to do for them.
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Sounds like a Fecal Friend!
Not necessarily, the concept could be used as a two birds/one stone scenario where an unwilling fluffy is turned into an accomplice
It works when you have Fluffies so stupid or adherent to the more fucked up parts of programming that empathy is really light. They may be unable to put themselves into the position of others and thus not connect another being’s suffering to their own, may nit be able to respond appropriately, might just automatically accept most things a human says as true regardless of other ideas, may see any Fluffy in a box as deserving of suffering until its out of the box, may be preprogrammed with any boxed -pal as an object by Hasbio, or may just be able to be fooled by something like fluff removal or ear cutting to think its just not a Fluffy anymore.
“Siwwy tawkie boxie, tawkie boxies am fow poopies an speshul huggies!”
Racism and ableism is supposed to be the handwave. But it doesn’t work when just any color is shoved in the box and “Dummies” are seen as anything but weakness that must perish
You God damned legend
Not necessarily, the concept could be used as a two birds/one stone scenario where an unwilling fluffy is turned into an accomplice
This would be great - but as is case with pretty much all things hellgremlin, you know they pretty much never do anything like this. Just one single comic that even then went out of its way to describe it as “An exceptionally rare phenomenon where a fluffy is born with a sense of empathy”
adherent to the more fucked up parts of programming that empathy is really light
unable to put themselves into the position of others
Those are the most obvious defining traits of a hellgremlin. A sociopathic monster that no one on their right mind would want to own, let alone market to children.
preprogrammed with any boxed -pal as an object by Hasbio
“Siwwy tawkie boxie, tawkie boxies am fow poopies an speshul huggies!”
Like with any hellgremlin features, making them Hasbio-designed only makes the whole thing even more absurd. Fluffies were made to be expensive toys for children and MLP fans, so designing them to mercilessy rape and shit on a living thing would be like designing a G.I. Joe figure with a penis that squirts blood, just in case the toy company someday decided to make a vietnamese rape victim accessory for their hero.
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Counterpoint: there have been toys that similarly are illogical to think parents would buy and children would want, except unlike Fluffies they actually went into production.
Since cruelty is baked into a lot of conceptions of Fluffies even were they fully finished, namely the fact they will die horribly and need to be replaced as well as being creatures who have a sex drive and the ability to articulate it, its not too far out there that a living bidet and sex relief Fluffy would be acceptable to the same kind of coked up brains that in real life wanted to sell things like: chestburster toys with oozy blood, edible poop play dough, a baby that is also pregnant, a giggling Troll doll who’s laughter button is her front crotch beneath her dress, Walking Dead zombies and dying main characters marketed for ages 8+, Clive Barker figures based on designs too extreme in terms of sexual content and gore for the Hellraiser movies in childrens toy aisles next to the Marvel superheroes, stripper baby dolls, an electronic plush toy game where you strangle a chicken for being annoying until it shuts up, screaming roadkill toys you are supposed to hit with a remote-control car, a puberty Barbie, a teen pregnancy Barbie, a doll who’s penis you have to hold so it can pee, a Playmobile kit with a policeman beating a homeless man, the entire Control Toys range which just repurposed bondage gear as child restraints by making it small and in pretty colors, Transformers who become a single unwearable shoe with no opposite shoe to match, a homeless American Girl doll, an anthropomorphic unicorn designed like a toddler who lives like an adult woman and just poops rainbows in the streets for humans to clean up, and like three quarters of the things Hasbro ever made that wasn’t board games or action figures.
Fluffy stuff goes a bit over the top at times. But its not necessarily unrealistic, particularly as “unfinished product” and especially if you extend their creation into the grossout/XTREME late 80’s through early 2000’s. The problem is a lot of writers do not keep the parody of toys in mind, and just write them like terrible children as if its a fucked up version of Muppet Babies.
In fact, I’d argue even further. A Fluffy breed intended to learn swear words, once that’s always sick but never dies of what it caught, a morgue kit, a brain slide sample extraction kit, an Easy Bake for Fluffy cannibals and kids to eat a livestock Fluffy, Fluffies who fire spikes, a target range for them to spray shit at, a pubic mane styling kit, a fetus specimen pickling kit, Fluffies with random mutations from highly unstable and complicated genetics for exciting breeding, Fluffy corpse reanimation kits, Fluffy casino sets designed to create a brothel, bar, gambling tables, and a mob office to corrupt a Herd with, a castle with accessories for defenders and attackers to slaughter each other, a bouncy Fluffy you’re supposed to send flying by launching stuff at it, Fluffies who look like real life serial killers, and so on.
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Toys like Rambo and Terminator are made for children because they’re inevitably gonna learn about their basic premise through pop-culture osmosis. Some are obviously for adults, like anime figurines, and some of those are rated 8+ because they don’t in themselves contain anything unsuitable for children. Peeing and pooping toys have been a mainstay for children who want to play family as long as there’s been technology to make them happen. And the Control Toys were a made-up set to advertise the show Super Nanny.
While there are indeed misguided toys like a hairy baby and surprisingly many human-headed horses, I think playing with real feces is where any manufacturer would draw the line. Doggie Doo is a game that goes well with childish sense of humor, but a nerf gun you load with real dog turds would get banned pretty quickly. All fluffies sold were supposed to be pre-neutered, and their fragility is obviously a flaw that would have been ironed out before they could be deemed suitable for release. The morally peculiar world of fluffyverse came about only as a result of cute creatures dying in droves, normalizing things that would have been absolutely unthinkable if Hasbio had released fluffies as a limited and valuable product.
Also, while different kinds of biotoys would definitely have been created eventually, the pony-like fluffies were going to be the first ones ever. Saying that they were designed to be edgy and improper would have been like Karl Benz presenting the first car ever with an integrated snow plow, bulletproof cabin, and center of gravity suitable for doing wheelies at the cost of being drivable.
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D’awwww
I think it would be possible to match some special needs fluffies with special needs owners. Kids in particular.
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Huh. I actually thought Control Toys was a real thing.
Still, Fluffies come preloaded with a word for rape and instinctually relegate some of their own not only to the tier of feces but actually show the inclination to force others to eat it. There is no way its a viable survival adaptation to punish one of their own that way, meaning it would have to be programmed in. Possibly as a play mode intended to be unlocked that just activates due to a flaw or was left on by default for the ones that escaped, but in either case its not demonstrated to be a learned behavior. Hell, aside from stories about particularly intelligent Ferals they aren’t generally shown passing any form of knowledge at all onto offspring, they instinctively know the lessons and words of the Mummah Song and Canned Foals as well as ones torn from mothers by Breeders are similarly adjusted and only need to be taught fear of ignoring their programmed knowledge in favor of emotion or desire.
If they’re capable of rape and just force others to eat their shit at all, then it makes sense those were planned features.
You could divorce generations and breeds though. Say maybe those behaviors appeared in Generation 5 or something, though that breaks the “Hasbio lost everything and nobody can rediscover it” rule. Just say some were designed that way from the start and interbreeding makes it appear periodically in any of them?
Fluffies come preloaded with a word for rape
What? They don’t even have a word for sex, let alone forced sex!
Anyway, you’re obviously talking about hellgremlins at this point, so discussing whether a children’s toy manufacturer programmed scat-play, sexual assault and straight-up torture to their Friendship Is Magic toyline boils down to why you’re in the fandom in the first place. Do you want to have fun and enjoy see overflowingly friendly creatures in hugbox and abuse situations alike, or do you want to get angry and seethe over how much you wish you could see justice instead? Because one is what makes fluffy fandom unique in the first place, while the other is precisely what draws people to spend time with twitter, yellow press, and getting trolled.
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I mean, I’m generally interested in using them as a means to explore humanity. Given the power to shape life and bring fantasy to reality, mankind intentionally makes an unintelligent and defenseless gerbil/rat/badger shaped like a horse then uses them asa hobby, parasitic economic niche, or just torments the things while the world burns because basically nothing significantly changes much when humans become Prometheus since its just easier to be Zeus and not give a shit. Then loses the technology that was used to make it and just never really rediscovers it. Meanwhile Fluffies exhibit similar toxic and evil behaviors as humans, just at a “toy” scale like a fucked up version of Rugrats. I mean, if you think about it a story centered around a Hellgremlin os just Walking Dead by way of Smurfs, and a story where some Abuser genius playboy mad scientist exterminates a Herd via power tools and gaslighting is just Smurf Walking Dead except the season villain is a Greek god.
Hell, its even darker when you consider the earlier canon of Fluffy limbs being reattachable or biogel being a thing, neither of which exists for humans. Robot legs for Pillow Fluffies, while wheelchairs are still a thing for folks. Half the population lights them on fire for fun, and still medical advances can basically restore any damage while mankind is living the exact same as it is in real life. No actual work on rediscovering that lost technogy and making a better human, or a perfect food animal, or an actual non-shit magic-like talking friend for children like organic I Sing The Body Electric, just hyper capitalism in a modern first world wasteland.
Also, Enfie seems just exclusively used to refer to rape. I suppose technically it just means rough or quick, as opposed to presumably slow rape that is Bad Special Huggies, but due to reproducing through sexual violence being common to animals I’d almost say Hellgremlin is when they take their time because its a conscious choice rather than the animal portion of the brain of a badly made uplifted chimera overpowering the computer-like programming that lets it interact more on a human level in a few specific ways. The term is definitely programmed since they never have variation, there’s no story I’m aware of where a Fluffy victim is struggling for a way to describe what happened and calls it something like “sowwy nunu stickies” or “icky bad bad feews”.
Its definitely less interesting to make them incapable of being anything more than an innocent cartoon character in a world they shouldn’t exist in, to make them all just stupid weak humans in chibi horse bodies, or make them all miniature Karens and Incels. Whether by giving them free will, unstable genetics and mutations that make some more alive than others, or just saying different breeds are more sapient and/or prone to antisocial behavior, the concept is improved by having a broader range of options in the same universe. One bad seed can do enough damage without making every Fluffy a tiny Mongol warlord without cause, but making them completely innocent means that the only variable for conflict and drama in different stories is what they can hurt themselves with, and otherwise the plot is entirely on the human. I mean, part of the gag of their innocence is being given four blocks then being unable to stack more than two with ease, the third with great effort before the fourth topples it and they start again, and just doing that almost all day, every day aside from times they get hungry or horny.
But ultimately the issue is that they’re a completely designed creature both mentally and physically, and most writing doesn’t give them any kind of shared culture to justify anything in either direction. Any kind of violence, bad behavior, or language that pops up frequently and in the same way just has to have been there on purpose, some kind of sabotage or hidden feature/gag from a designer, a glitch, or the natural instincts of ancestor animals coming out. If they all understand what rape is, have a word for it, and even have a phrase declaring they are not meant to be used that way, then someone put it in them rather than just making them unable to do it. Otherwise you’d have to do away with the ability to remove a Foal from its mother, raise it on a milkbag, then throw it in the dollar bin and somehow have the same world understanding and vocabulary as any other Fluffy.
Possibly a lot of behavior can be called a quick fix that the public was never meant to see, like how the unreachable parts of World Of Warcraft maps via invisible walls or conveniently placed rocks had notes spelled out in the terrain from one designer to another about future plans for the area or problems they were having. “Nu am mawe” just being one lab bioengineer making a note to another to make males never see each other as partners.
But when it comes right down to it, the -pals is ultimately representative of the human cruelty instead of the Fluffy. If they are programmed to not see the Fluffy in the box as a Fluffy then they remain innocent, blissfully unaware because their brain is not allowed to see it as a being who is suffering, let alone another Fluffy. That Hasbio planned it from the start, even just as an idea some sick fuck who’s job leading a team came 100% from nepotism ordered them to try out and was sold as an actual product or kit after public opinion soured on artificial lifeforms, just says mankind is trash. Cruelty stemming from racism or ableism can still be considered part of programming. Not many works portray complete empathy and understanding that only circumstance makes them different from the one in the box, even the ones that have them know its a sad Fluffy have them just not understand what to do with their sadness other than go cheer themselves up or reason that if the Fluffy didn’t deserve it the human would not have said it was their purpose.
The -pal ideas are definitely strange and require decisions to be made, and explained (unless its a comic or single image) to work well. But they aren’t necessarily a default Hellgremlin thing. As I recall there is a story where a randy male is converted into an Enfiepal just as a quick and efficient means of tending livestock that would get aggressive and harm each other without release the way an old fashioned cowboy might try to deal some blunt brain damage to a violent steer or cut a sickly one to ensure predators take it first during a drive to maximize the health of the herd without ensuring a loss for example.
I mean, you don’t exactly see me using the idea much. There has to be a logic to it, since it immediately says what your setting is and isn’t in so many ways.
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In the corner is that the blind fluffy from the see no evil /speak no evil /hear no evil series?
Hey is that slate?
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“inspired by.” As I recall, Slate was pillowed and had different colors.
Nice to see this floating back to the top. It’s a great piece, and the idea of how it might mirror an actual facility for real animals gives me queasy, unhappy feelings. Which I think is a good thing, honestly. Spay and neuter those pets! Don’t give pets as gifts!
I also really appreciate the more realistic view of things. As much as I like hugbox stuff, there’s some stuff that simply is not presented justly with a deus ex machina ending. This is something, but its still sad. And perfect as a result.
Oh yeah you’re right
I wonder what happened to the Purple despondent. He looks normal lmao he must have gone through testicular torsion and bad enfies and shit