That my point, we dont know. But people want to know, they need to know (at least that’s how it feels to them) point being, people are going to speculate. And yes drama can be tiring, but it can also be riveting.
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Question it I am out right saying it’s all bullshit you have no first hand knowledge from guzziman wet is as close as you get to knowing why the booru died and even he said he doesn’t know
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just like I said: if you arrange the half-truths in the right order, you will get the truth. not full truth, but enough to understand what happened
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Yes we dont know, that’s why we make theories about what happened. You look at pompe we dont just go “well that’s that nothing to see here” people want to know every little detail, people want to know what Napoleon ate for breakfast before getting caught in the alps. People’s thirst for knowledge doesnt stop just because “we dont know”.
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When I first joined the booru I rad the rules. I remember one of them was to not upload real animal abuse, ok.
At one moment RoachQueen uploaded a comic of foals being used as decoration for cakes and someone in the comments asked what kind of person would put a living crying animal in their food. As a response I linked a Youtube video of Chinese people eating living baby mice and I got banned.
Maybe I was wrong, but my reasoning was that the rules banned uploading real animal abuse, not linking, but whatever.
I asked a mod, Techi IIRC, about it and confirmed I was banned for linking. I decided not to argue about the rules because I know internet mods tend to be very bitchy about their interpretation of rules and hate “lawyering”.
I could have circunvented the ban, but decided to just leave the booru. A few months later it dies.
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We retain the same rules against animal abuse here, and that includes linking.
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I always find it weird when I realize that I’m an oldfag for having gotten in during the summer of 2017 and remember how it all was before.
I don’t feel like fluffies are unique in this regard. The Yukkuri community has had a lot of the same problems the fluffy community has had. Then there’s Norn torture, which predates fluffies by about a decade and yukkuris by years, and also saw strong anti-abuse groups form in response. And there’s also the over the top reactions to stories like Blue Moon Nursery or more mainstream violent media like the video game Hatred. I’m sure there’s others, but you get my point.
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wait a minute…
japan has a fluffy community, but with shit-filled blobs that look like Touhou characters?
Edit:
Never mind, it’s just a bean paste
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I feel like this is the end result of a 4chan based community getting names and personalities attached. I my experience it never ends well and leads to Gaia Online levels of drama. When everyone is Anon everyone is equally shitting on each other one sentence then to being friends the next but when you start getting user names people start getting clout (ego) and friends (allies) and attacks become a lot more personal, things you’ve done stick with you. You start developing a reputation for good and bad, you’ll also make enemies who will stick around and hold grudges leading to all out drama wars.
Sorry for the long text just my observation of many communities.
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I remember digging that up. Apparently they’re more commonly eaten and are just like Salarian liver; the fear adds spice.
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Correlation does not equal causation. While I agree that “history is important,” I think it’s also important that we don’t try to assign blame based on one person’s (or one “faction’s”) view of the facts.
Long story short, there’s plenty of blame to go around. To be quite honest, I prefer to avoid the underlying drama in this community (regardless of what anyone might say), and would rather come here as a way to escape my mundane routine. Because some of us have lives outside of fluffy abuse/hugbox/weirdbox/anthro/subspecies/fiction/scatology/whatever. Don’t fuck this up.
I’ve said my last on this topic. Now, back to the fun of seeing what people are drawing/writing about today.
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Memories, memories. As sad as it was to see the decaying, decrepit, archaic, bony ass of the booru go, it was probably for the best. The place was pretty toxic, though I hate to use that word given the buzzword status it’s achieved. It was a place that had some serious divisions, to put it lightly, and picking a side was a one time thing. Overall, this summary is pretty accurate and I don’t see anything at first glance that is an outright lie or falsehood, and of course considering this is an anonymous post on 4chan I don’t expect Oculus to have edited anything for the sake of corrections. I would like to highlight and address some misconceptions though, seeing as I have been around since 2016 and I have witnessed the ins and outs of the Fall firsthand both onsite and on Discord.
First thing’s first, I would argue the website wasn’t necessarily on its deathbed. It was experiencing a drought, as do all communities; the first of which that springs to mind is obviously the MLP community, which has suffered many sudden spans where content and connection was spotty. In spite of those, however, it’s still around, enough to have kept Derpibooru, /mlp/, and EquestriaDaily online and busy even in the face of the show’s end. Of course, this is a television show we’re talking about, where more fuel to keep the community going was not so much a guess as a guarantee; we did not have that, since a fair bit of the community has and had no interest or involvement in the MLP community, myself included. However, I agree that the onslaught of newfags from YouTube and Reddit especially marked the end of the booru. The people coming in were not interested in mixing with the old guard of 4channers and, to be fair, there was no interest from the standing community to let the Redditors or YouTube kids in. Regardless, the site is still gone, so there’s not much more to be said beyond clarification of why it’s gone and how it went.
Which brings me to the second thing; who killed the community? The answer, as proposed by this post by Anonymous, states that the blame mostly lays with Pawn. I would consider this to be an unfair claim. I would instead aim the blame at Techi. I admit my bias; I never particularly liked Techi and I wouldn’t care to defend her from unjust criticism, and Pawn and I most certainly have our gripes with one another. That being said, in spite of the rogue mod fiasco, I still believe that the smoking gun we are all staring at is Techi. I spent a lot of time around her; I first met her in the Sketti Wand Discord server. Her main power play was the fact that she was female. Yes, I understand how this makes me sound like a total assmad incel, but that truly was her power. In mere months she had bent DW enough that he consulted her on things in the Discord and she was, in essence, admin alongside DW. Her power spread over others as well; she had control over WetFluff, who as stated in the post was a notorius (pardon my blatant disdain towards him) jagoff and hardass, who liked to use his power to his own ends unless directly supervised by someone who wouldn’t tolerate his behavior; I refer in this case to DW, who had kept him on a short leash during my time there. However, over time his control lessened over him, and in his stead Techi took hold. I will not get into my problems with WetFluff here, however this is no doubt in my mind that he answered directly to Techi and knew she was too meek to really take action over him, and so he became bolder with his actions over time; this led to quite a few altercations between him and members of the Discord, myself included. I was also in close contact with Techi, having sent DMs to her on Discord for over a year; to put it simply, she was very much a person who was interested in being on the top and enforcing her will, regardless of whether or not she was conscious of this fact. Her ideal booru was a place where her rules were final and non-flexible to all but her followers, who were more interested in maintaining their power than properly modding. She believed that the booru should not house anything hateful, including racist or sexist imagery, and should not permit people who would question her. Simply put, her idea of a booru was a place where one could not express views she deemed “mean”, even if they were simply pointing out flaws in her and her team. I realize this may all sound like a biased attack as opposed to an explanation, but I refer to my friend @anon17213083, who can corroborate my claims. Simply put, she was going to kill the community, Pawn or no Pawn, and leave a husk, shambling miserably around.
Thirdly and finally, I would like to emphasize the change in the community that spurred from the shift in community groups. Simply put, Reddit and YouTube found the community, and that was the final straw for those who originally came from 4chan. Nobody was willing to be in the same room, and I cannot blame any one side for having the animosity they harbored. I am one of the last remaining 4chan fags, and I’m not even an oldfag; as stated, I only joined in summer of 2016, way past the birth of the community, though I am an originalfag from 4chan. As much as I loathe to speak those words, they’re not exactly something to brag about, I hope it would allow you to better grasp my point of view. Simply put, the booru was not compatible with the people coming in, and there were too many newfags trashing the site to bother attempting to corral them all away, especially considering everything going on concurrently. I also admit my opposition to the shift in community majorities; I am a gatekeeper, not out of hate but because I do not like seeing things like the fall of the booru happen, which could have been avoided if certain parties were kept out. Despite this, I accept the shift and I choose to continue floating around, albeit mostly on Discord; even then, my presence is not very large, as I have been assisting BranF1akes in his new Cartoon Abuse Central server, which includes fluffies, yes, but is not centered on it, and I only just recently rejoined The Fluffy Server. Simply put, even those who are still around from the old days are hanging on by threads, and those who left left because they were rightfully bitter over being pushed out of the community they founded.
My experiences have left me with only these things to rectify and help give insight into. I don’t wish to create discourse or arguments by stating any of these things, I only mean to give more context to the events leading to the end of the booru. I myself was only a second-tier player during the schism; my name held some minor weight, and now holds none now that everyone who knew me is long gone, and that I am fine with. It’s a fresh start and an opportunity to actually try and establish myself as a creator and not a random Pittsburgher with a profile picture of a dead monarch and a surly attitude. Despite this, I had some info I thought was worth sharing, and I hope anyone who reads this can take away from it more knowledge than they already have. If you are suspicious or wary of my word for whatever reason, I incline you to speak with BranF1akes, who has been around in the community longer than I and can clear anything up and correct me if I have made any errors. Anyways, this has been a very nice post and it’s good to see people analyzing why the old site failed and how to avoid such shortcomings in the future. Guten abend.
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ohh dam thats why jells are so popular now? is there any imgur gallery of the oc red hair lady? i dont remeber the name
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I am late as hell to this thread lol
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Ill say that the original post about the downfall is accurate enough, and Kaiser provided some good insight aswell.
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I haven’t talked to anyone about this since December 2020. How did I miss this?
I guess I’m out of site and out of mind now.
I even had to make an account because of this. And I Haven’t even been coming here.
I was wondering if any one had posted any of my old work anywhere because I was setting up to do commissions again so I decided to google myself…
And this came up.
I remember talking to someone about all this months ago…
So I thought this was an old post from then.
But it’s not. it’s less then a month old.
No one bothered to PM me, (Even though I’m still in the discords) oh well.
I’ve been keeping my distance from the fluffy shtick for a while now, but I still get my hate.
Still getting PMs from vindictive stalkers thinking they know me and that I’m Satan incarnate.
Yes I was heavy handed, blunt and an asshole, But I stood my ground till the end.
I came into fluffies as to use for a good subject matter to build my artistic skills with and ended up making life long friends and in some cases I would consider family.
So when they all left I had to stand guard and I don’t regret that.
As for this article it’s about 30% true.
The rest is in fact hearsay. I don’t know why, the last time I spoke about any of this months ago I revealed quite a bit…
And for some reason that’s not here.
Now I wont say everything because Guzz trusted me and I feel it not right to break that trust now.
But Pawn was never a factor in what happened and was only used as a scape goat (That I didn’t find out till later).
The Fact that Techi is implied as a catalyst is just plane wrong.
Techi had nothing to do with it. In fact other then her running the discord, she had pretty much gave up on the booru at that point. The petty Discord squabble had nothing to do with it.
The Discord had no weight on the booru what so ever.
Just like how everyone magickly forgot about the Skype group or IRC, it was separate.
Some of it was made to look like a hack or “rouge admin” but it was in fact someone manipulating the booru because things had gotten bad in the background.
These things weren’t revealed to me till much later.
And The Click was a MAJOR factor.
I don’t understand this The Click defense I keep seeing, but the guy openly mocked us and brought trouble our way and a good lot of you cant see that.
There were threats, there were floods, and there was monitory gain for others work that was done to free.
The click was/is a bottom feeder and he added gas to a flame that had been lit for a good while.
Now I can say there was a good amount of talent that came from it and it was a huge task of weeding out the good from the bad.
Some came in to legit contribute, while others came to stir the pot.
I was thinking of taking up the booru, but it wasn’t offered and maybe it was for the best.
But after The Click came about, it was to much to bare.
At that point I was the only active mod and Guzz had checked out.
After some death threats to our families Guzz just said screw it.
We talked some after the shut down and I now know the whole story. But I will leave some out for now. Maybe after time passes I’ll tell the tale.
But it’s only been a couple months since the booru (A site I spent many years on) shut down.
I also noticed that Hewmon has set a new redirect on the old .org to here.
So it looks like he’s given his blessing.
I’m still on the fence about continuing any thing fluffy.
Maybe it’s best some times let sleeping dogs lie.
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Happy 2021, Wet. Despite everything, we find ourselves here.
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I joined Fluffy Booru during the time when you guys started posting stuff on fourchan then I left cause of the toxic shit going on in comments and the abuse art with no creativity but I missed you guys so much I just decided to search it up again a couple of weeks ago and made an account a few days ago too I’m in the process of writing my own OC. Hopefully we can get along!
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we can’t but don’t let that stop you from having fun
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